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Old 08-13-2009, 12:41 AM
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**** off?!?! Nice to know how polite you are. I just said its easier on Iphone to straight download movies to the device. PEACE
I wasn't trying to be polite. I'm getting sick and tired of idiots coming on this board talking out their arses about things they know nothing about and going OT in threads. Now go on and get back to your iPhone fantasy world with all your little iPhone knights servants (it doesn't mean much in English but there are several languages around where it's a really really bad thing) and be happy in that world. Now go on and get, shoo! Stop disturbing the peace and public order.


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Hey, guys, I think we might be a little harsh on arturmeireles. I mean, he is entitled to his opinion after all, and if the 3GS happens to fit better with his video usage, more power to him. Now, objectively, I'd like to think the Omnia wins in terms of screen size/color and codec support, but I'm sure there are good reasons as to why the 3GS wins in certain usage scenarios.
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I have an iphone 3gs and it's crap for watching films. The screen is nothing compared to the i8910 and it supports less formats unless you download another video player. The battery life is not even as good as the i8910 and that say's everything. Also no flash support of any kind other than the youtube app just sucks big time. Can't even watch the video on youtube via the browser..it just defaults to the app and closes Safari. No multitasking and no flash for the camera are other negatives even though that is off topic.

Iphone = great browser but not for media. It has superb app development and I doubt it will fall behind in that department anytime soon. Can't change anything on the phone with it being so restrictive..requires jail breaking to even change the theme (pfffft) the UI is great but soon gets boring with it's limitations.

I like the iphone but it can't replace the i8910 for an overall media experience.
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Agreed on all points James, I've had an N97 on trial from Nokia and its very much lacking in comparison.
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Hey, guys, I think we might be a little harsh on arturmeireles. I mean, he is entitled to his opinion after all, and if the 3GS happens to fit better with his video usage, more power to him. Now, objectively, I'd like to think the Omnia wins in terms of screen size/color and codec support, but I'm sure there are good reasons as to why the 3GS wins in certain usage scenarios.
Yes he is entitled to his opinion however uninformed and misguided it is, however if he decides to voice his opinion he should provide good arguments to back it up. His "opinion" is not the problem. The problem is that he is posting about the 3GS in an N97 vs i8910 thread and on top of all that he's talking out his arse too. Now if this was an 3GS vs i8910 thread okay but what good did his comment do in this thread? Other then spawning a series of useless and even more OT replies.

But this is not the first time he has done this.
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This thread proves that he knows about AVI containers and codec's and such.
Omnia HD doesnt play AVI files?!?

The reason why he's so cross with the i8910 is because he can't view his collection of old low quality mpeg pr0n on it. If he's a fanboy, if he can't be objective and if he simply plain out doesn't know and can't be arsed to investigate then he should shut up and stop spreading useless nonsense!
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I've recently had the opportunity to use both phones and I have to say that the i8910 blows the N97 clear out of the water. Here are the main reasons. If you've used both please add your observations too.

1. The Camera: Both the video capture and stills capture are clearly better on the i8910.

2. The Screen: Where do I start?! The i8910 screen is certainly not perfect, but compared to the N97's screen is a revelation.

3. The video playback: Honestly, I've testing a large amount of smartphones over the last 6 years and nothing even comes close to the video playback of the i8910.

4. The industry design. The i8910 wants to be held. It just feels right. The N97 on the other hand feels... wrong.

I own both of these phones and over the past couple of months or so have been trying to decide which one to keep as an upgrade to my trusty old Nokia E90. The following are simply my observations about those aspects of both phones that were important to me in my choice between the two phones.

1) Keyboard / Form factor

Naturally, as a long term Commie owner I have a preference to a physical qwerty keyboard and so the N97 seemed a natural choice. At the same time I was keen to see how a touch screen qwerty compared. I found the N97 keyboard quite easy to use and quickly became accustomed to the differences between that of the E90. The N97's keys are smaller but with sufficient space between them generally. I have no problems using the keyboard with my stubby fingers. As good as the keyboard is, I find that the sliding hinge form factor of the N97 is more of a hinderance to me when trying to type. The N97 keyboard is easiest to use when the phone is sitting on a table which allows me to use index fingers to type as I would with my laptop. However, as soon as I pick the phone up to type I find myself using my thumbs whilst the phone fits snugly in both hands. Because the screen only locks in one position I found that I had to rotate the phone away from me to find the optimum comfort when typing and trying to view what I was typing. This is fine per se, but I found this tiresome when I needed to type anything longer than a quick text message or email. If the N97 had a similar hinge mechanism as the E90 then the problem would be solved for me at least.

The Samsung was my first experience of Touch qwerty and I have to admit to being skeptical at first, but the 3.7" landscape qwerty was a revelation. I have no problems using it and find the key presses very responsive. My only concern is that sometimes the Samsung can struggle in registering key presses if I type too fast. However, I have learned to live with this and am more than happy with the Samsung's qwerty. The form factor is a simple bar format which sits flatter in my hands with less worry that I am about to drop it. My typing speed improved over the N97 and I found it more comfortable to use for typing long documets and emails. Yes, there is a compromise in that the screen is mainly taken up with the keypad and so there is very little room left to display the text being entered. I can live with this though.

2). Phone O.S. and speed

One of the main reasons for upgrading from the S60 V3 E90 was that is was becoming 'long in the tooth'. Although it is one hell of a capable phone, mine was becoming slow.

My own experience is that the N97 and the Sammy were much faster than the E90 in all aspects but the Sammy is noticibly faster than the N97. Whizzing through menus and opening documents are all really quick. Even starting up the camera is faster than i was used to. Both the N97 or the Sammy are acceptable for me in his respect.

Both phones use the same OS but there are subtle differences enable each phone to out perform the other in some aspects.

Whilst the Sammy is quicker, it seemed to be less stable and have a few issues that have been discussed on this forum. Specifically, random web browser crashes and the well known 'Stop / exit' bug as an example. Also the Sammy seems to have issues with Java software such as Google Maps and Opera Web Browser, where these programs will freeze or close randomly (again these issues have been discussed in this forum).

The N97 also has similar issues with the native web browser, but not the Java issues. Generally the N97 was more stable, although it did shut down and re-boot on a couple of accaisions.

One major advantage of the Sammy though is the greater amount of RAM available for running multiple applications effortlessly, just as I was able to on my E90.

N97 on the other hand will multi task to lesser extent (less RAM available) and although this may not be an issue for most users, it was for me. However, one aspect where the Nokia wins through is in using the Office applications. Why is it that i can only view pdf and other documents in full screen landscape mode on the Nokia and not the Sammmy?

3) Camera

The e90's 3.2mp camera was acceptable when I bought it as the trade off with the e90's overall capabilities and form factor were more importatant. That said the still photos and video quality were enough for my usage.

The N97's camera is good but I was blown away by stills and video that the 8mp Sammy produces. As a Building Surveyor I use a camera on a daily basis and feel that I could rely on both the Sammy and the N97 for both work and play. I will add that most of my camera use is outside during the day. Both phones are a let down though when taking photos in poorly lit conditions. This is what I expected and have accepted, after all they are primarily phones and no phone will ever compete with a decent dedicated camera.

My Verdict

I have decided to keep the Samsung and part company with the Nokia.

That is not to say that the i8910 is perfect. There are well know issues that need fixing and hopefully future firmware updates will resolve these.

In the end I just found the Sammy suited my needs better. I find the phone easier to use and carry about. It just does what it says on the tin.

Thats my tuppence worth!
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Yes he is entitled to his opinion however uninformed and misguided it is, however if he decides to voice his opinion he should provide good arguments to back it up. His "opinion" is not the problem. The problem is that he is posting about the 3GS in an N97 vs i8910 thread and on top of all that he's talking out his arse too. Now if this was an 3GS vs i8910 thread okay but what good did his comment do in this thread? Other then spawning a series of useless and even more OT replies.

But this is not the first time he has done this.
viewing screen on a sunny day

This thread proves that he knows about AVI containers and codec's and such.
Omnia HD doesnt play AVI files?!?

The reason why he's so cross with the i8910 is because he can't view his collection of old low quality mpeg pr0n on it. If he's a fanboy, if he can't be objective and if he simply plain out doesn't know and can't be arsed to investigate then he should shut up and stop spreading useless nonsense!
Wow, I was going to call you out but you obviously knew that guy was a troll, good stuff!

BTW, the guys have all said it, Omnia HD is far superior as a video player, and probably plays more formats than the iPhone, I've always knew this. Both phones can download videos from youtube but the quality will be poor. I believe with the Samsung it is possible to download the HD versions of youtube videos.

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Yeah its all in the resolution.
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Some great points made here.

My own thoughts on the whole 'iPhone Vs. i8910 for video playback' debate are as follows:

Watching a decent AVI file at full resolution and in normal indoor lighting conditions is astonishing. Honestly, the colour and detail is absolutely second to none. However, introduce a bit of direct sunlight and I'd rather watch something on the iPhone screen.

After watching movies on the i8910 it's really hard to go back to any other phone, and I haven't even mentioned the decent stereo separation.
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Some great points made here.

My own thoughts on the whole 'iPhone Vs. i8910 for video playback' debate are as follows:

Watching a decent AVI file at full resolution and in normal indoor lighting conditions is astonishing. Honestly, the colour and detail is absolutely second to none. However, introduce a bit of direct sunlight and I'd rather watch something on the iPhone screen.

After watching movies on the i8910 it's really hard to go back to any other phone, and I haven't even mentioned the decent stereo separation.

I agree...i ripped the blu ray version of robocop this evening, straight to my i8910, and the playback is awesome..seriously, i would never consider another device for video but this one...
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